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Sam Ibrahim was an enthusiastic middle-man in a gun plot but was certainly not ordinarily in the business of supplying firearms, his barrister has told a NSW District Court judge.
But Judge Anthony Blackmore was sceptical, retorting that at the time of his offence Ibrahim was on bail for firearms possession, knew about weapons and how to get them.
The 52-year-old pleaded guilty in November last year to conspiring to supply the weapons as one of four people, including his sister Jazz Dior and her then-partner Elvis Mileski, nabbed in a police sting in April 2014.
The former Nomads motorcycle gang chief had planned for Dior and Mileski to obtain five Glock pistols and give them to co-accused Paul DeMarco who would then pass them on to a buyer, according to an agreed statement of facts.
However, the buyer was an undercover police officer and the deal never eventuated.
In intercepted phone calls, Ibrahim told Mileski to make sure the guns were new and not "s*** ones".
Ibrahim's barrister Peter Lange told his sentence hearing on Thursday the conversation was "scarcely a description given by a person who has knowledge of the products he is about to receive" and Ibrahim was dependent on the ability and capacity of the other two men to acquire the guns.
He said Ibrahim's individual role "falls well below" that of DeMarco who was "well and truly entrenched in the supply of very dangerous firearms" and sentenced in June to at least six years behind bars.
"The role played by this offender was that of a middle-man, certainly an enthusiastic middle-man, but certainly a person who was not ordinarily in the business of supplying firearms," Mr Lange said.
Judge Blackmore questioned the argument that Ibrahim was reliant on the others for firearm supply given his history as a member of an outlaw motorcycle gang.
"He was on bail at the time, wasn't he, for having possession of a weapon?" the judge said.
"There's no doubt he has seen weapons in the past. He knows what they are, he knows how to get them.
"I'm also not going to have you sit there and tell me he's some innocent cleanskin."
Crown prosecutor Sarah Talbert argued Ibrahim was equally "entrenched" and involved "in every step" of the conspiracy, acting as the "driving force behind the agreement to supply the firearms".
His role in the plot extended beyond being an intermediary, go-between, messenger or middle-man, she said.
Dior and Mileski are each serving 18-month jail terms by way of intensive correction orders in the community.
Ibrahim will be sentenced on February 16.